wanderlust
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Best solo albums 1979Nosferatu wins it for me as it was influential on future stranglers material Euroman cometh less so but both were before their time musically..
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Alias
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Yup, went for the 'feratu too.
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PaulinLondon
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Euroman for me. Still listen to it very regularly.
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Ian9331
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Euroman for me too. Played it a 1000 times more than Nosferatu.
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theraven1979
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Impossible to answer - both really good albums. I was listening to "Big Bug" the other day in the car and I love how Hugh has double vocals on that and one of them is screaming in the background. Of course JJ's Eurohomme is ground breaking as well - I can't decide.
Jim
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MULLY
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Euroman by a euromile (should that be a kilometre? )
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mccardigan
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Euroman gets it for me as I instantly fell in love with it wheras Nosferatu has grown on me over the years. However it is a testimony to Nos that 16 years after buying it I have grown to love it! For you oldies it must have been great hearing the inventiveness of these two lps. Or did you feel left down?
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gizzard
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This is a tough one as both are great albums.
Played Nosferatu for the first time for yonks last week and it was excellent as I remember.
Easily Hugh's best solo LP.
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Andrew
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Euroman by a whisker, but both are superb.
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ThruBeingCool
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| mccardigan wrote: | | For you oldies it must have been great hearing the inventiveness of these two lps. Or did you feel left down? |
let down.
Neither came anywhere to The Stranglers out-put at that time. Prefer 'Euroman' but still give 'Nosferatu' an occassional spin.
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wanderlust
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Both are really underrated pieces of post punk rock NOSFERATU was a possible influence on some of the gothic bands of the 80's and along with Post-punk Damned and Banshees paved the way for the emergence of bands like JOY DIVISION and others..EUROMAN may have sounded wacky at the time but it has aged quite well considering the period it was recorded in. I think these two albums would have taken off if Hugh and JJ had more time to promote them between stranglers tours and albums which wasn't possible. JJ got as far as the ill fated tour and Hugh didnt get the chance to air any of this material til the mid 90's..
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Cola Can
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NOSFERATU! the opening track alone deserves a medal.
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paulinblack
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| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | mccardigan wrote: | | For you oldies it must have been great hearing the inventiveness of these two lps. Or did you feel left down? |
let down.
Neither came anywhere to The Stranglers out-put at that time. Prefer 'Euroman' but still give 'Nosferatu' an occassional spin. |
Bloody 'ell ! I agree with that man !
Voted for Nosferatu in order to make it a tie at this point.
Paul
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Jon the Impaler
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Both are fine albums , very different to each other and different again to The Stranglers , though I think there is more Stranglers influence in Hugh's effort . For me Nosferatu just edges it . I like White Room - Hugh did a good job with that one . Shame that both albums didn't sell better .
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serya
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This is brutal, both are as good as any Stranglers album I think. Nosferatu got more spins on my turntable, though.
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F41NXS
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cant really say about the albums both about the same
Euroman was the best gig t-shirt though, wore that t-shirt for years with i bought more of them
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mabus
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Since when was Nosferatu a solo album??
My copy is by Hugh Cornwell & Robert Williams!!
Robert Williams' input is pretty much a forgotten factor these days.
Maybe if RW was not on Nosferatu, it would sound more like Wolf
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The Nosferatu
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euroman is infinetely better, more melodies, keyboard stuff, it sounds less polished but maybe its to its advantage, which is gay coz ive lost my euroman cometh cd.
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johnnyg1968
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Nosferatu hands down i still listen to it now what a great album. Dont get me wrong Euroman is good but Nosferatu is superior in every way
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theraven1979
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There both great albums and both far apart as you could get em - Today I would say I prefer Nosferatu rather than Eurohomme but that's only bacause I prefer Hugh's voice and subject matter.
That said it was a bold move for a bass guitarist to have a stab at a solo effort and it's pretty cool
Jim
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PaulinLondon
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Euroman works and wins it for me only because there is an angst there that really clicks for me everytime I play this album.
Crucial ingredients :
Euroman
Bottle of red.
Headphones.
Armchair.
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gizzard
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| PaulinLondon wrote: | Euroman works and wins it for me only because there is an angst there that really clicks for me everytime I play this album.
Crucial ingredients :
Euroman
Bottle of red.
Headphones.
Armchair.
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You forgot the take-away Curry.
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LAFOLIE
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For me its Euroman. Seem to relate more to this album.
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Pawsher
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suchi
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for me too, more to get ya teeth into Wired, Nosferatu, and Losers mi favourites
Euroman has some great moments too but spoiled by some ludicrous ones like Crabs Overall sounds dated now but prolly ready on the wheel to be in vogue again.
Freddie, Eurospeed, Do The European and Jellyfish the highlights for me.
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ThruBeingCool
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| mabus wrote: | Since when was Nosferatu a solo album??
My copy is by Hugh Cornwell & Robert Williams!!
Robert Williams' input is pretty much a forgotten factor these days.
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Oh please let's not start all that again
Anyway, I've voted for 'Nosferatu' this time because I went for 'Euroman'on the other identical poll
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Claireinblack
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| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | mabus wrote: | Since when was Nosferatu a solo album??
My copy is by Hugh Cornwell & Robert Williams!!
Robert Williams' input is pretty much a forgotten factor these days.
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Oh please let's not start all that again
Anyway, I've voted for 'Nosferatu' this time because I went for 'Euroman'on the other identical poll  |
Ha ha...
I like it..!!!!!!!!!!!!
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theraven1979
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| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | mabus wrote: | Since when was Nosferatu a solo album??
My copy is by Hugh Cornwell & Robert Williams!!
Robert Williams' input is pretty much a forgotten factor these days.
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Oh please let's not start all that again
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ThruBeingCool
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| theraven1979 wrote: | .
That said it was a bold move for a bass guitarist to have a stab at a solo effort and it's pretty cool
Jim |
Surely JJ is more than just a bass guitarist TSK
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wadey1
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nosferatu by a mile. much more musically interesting and accomplished. a lot of euroman is hard to listen to, very little melody. my fave from that lp is pretty face.
nosferatu is a dark gothic classic way ahead of the game. hoagys in leeds has it on their juke box (internet one). i put on caterpillar the oth er day, shoulda seen their faces. ha ha
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theraven1979
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Hmmm my copy of Eurohomme doesn't have the pull out guide to Karate?
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | theraven1979 wrote: | .
That said it was a bold move for a bass guitarist to have a stab at a solo effort and it's pretty cool
Jim |
Surely JJ is more than just a bass guitarist TSK  |
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ThruBeingCool
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I know wot you're doing.
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theraven1979
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Glad you do!
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | I know wot you're doing. |
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ThruBeingCool
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TONGUEINCHEEKWINDUPMERCHANT!
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theraven1979
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Ah, you have my business card.
Gonna have to be a bit more subtle if YOU! are sussing me.
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | TONGUEINCHEEKWINDUPMERCHANT! |
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ThruBeingCool
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Still neck and neck on this poll too!
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theraven1979
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Technically Hugh is winning - you have to discount the 5-10 posts by the females on here who are just wet for JJ and not the actualy record.
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | Still neck and neck on this poll too! |
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Claireinblack
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| theraven1979 wrote: | Technically Hugh is winning - you have to discount the 5-10 posts by the females on here who are just wet for JJ and not the actualy record.
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | Still neck and neck on this poll too! |
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5-10, is that all...!!!!!!!
He must be loosing his touch !!!
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ThruBeingCool
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| theraven1979 wrote: | Technically Hugh is winning - you have to discount the 5-10 posts by the females on here who are just wet for JJ and not the actualy record.
Jim
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What about the 5-10 posts that you and other members of the "Cornwell Camp" made, who are just wet for Hugh and not the actual record? Surely that evens things up again
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theraven1979
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Only you're wet for Hugh Spooner.
Do you live on Spooner St? Is Peter Griffin your neighbour?
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | theraven1979 wrote: | Technically Hugh is winning - you have to discount the 5-10 posts by the females on here who are just wet for JJ and not the actualy record.
Jim
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What about the 5-10 posts that you and other members of the "Cornwell Camp" made, who are just wet for Hugh and not the actual record? Surely that evens things up again  |
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adam_neil
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Oooh here we go again with this Cornwell Camp, Pro Hugh bollocks...
If I preffered Euroman to Nosferatu (which I don't) I would vote for Euroman.
I'd be quite insulted actually if one were to just vote for an album just for the sake of it. That's fucking stupid.
Adam
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evonx
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Although people know me as being more into JJ's solo work (Un Jour Parfait, the japanese manga songs) in this case I have to say Nosferatu which is without any doubt the best Hugh ever did solo (or with mr Williams in this case).
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ThruBeingCool
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| evonx wrote: | | in this case I have to say Nosferatu which is without any doubt the best Hugh ever did solo (or with mr Williams in this case). |
Why do people refer to'Nosferatu' by Hugh Cornwell & Robert Williams as a Hugh solo album and not 'Fire & Water' by JJ Burnel & Dave Greenfield as a JJ solo album?
Ain't it strange
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ThruBeingCool
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| adam_neil wrote: | Oooh here we go again with this Cornwell Camp, Pro Hugh bollocks...
If I preffered Euroman to Nosferatu (which I don't) I would vote for Euroman.
I'd be quite insulted actually if one were to just vote for an album just for the sake of it. That's fucking stupid.
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Chillout Adam, I was only having a dig at 'THE TONGUEINCHEEKWINDUPMERCHANT'
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theraven1979
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Not really - When you're in a band any activity outside that band by one of their members is classed as a solo effort. Why do you have a problem with this concept?
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | evonx wrote: | | in this case I have to say Nosferatu which is without any doubt the best Hugh ever did solo (or with mr Williams in this case). |
Why do people refer to'Nosferatu' by Hugh Cornwell & Robert Williams as a Hugh solo album and not 'Fire & Water' by JJ Burnel & Dave Greenfield as a JJ solo album?
Ain't it strange  |
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ThruBeingCool
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So CCW is another solo effort is it?
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ThruBeingCool
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| theraven1979 wrote: | | Not really - When you're in a band any activity outside that band by one of their members is classed as a solo effort. |
Is it fuck!
Dead Men Walking are touring in the near future for example. Capt Sensible is a member of the group but in no way,shape or form would this band be classed as a Captain Sensible solo project...or a Mike Peters or Kirk Brandon one for that matter...just because they're not with their regular bands.
Which part of that concept don't YOU understand?
Ya pudding head!
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theraven1979
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Nope - he left the Stranglers by then
Might be best to start with some Janet & John books Barry
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | So CCW is another solo effort is it? |
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icecube
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| theraven1979 wrote: | Nope - he left the Stranglers by then
Jim
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I heard that he'd started to write with Roger Cook before he left the Stranglers. Is there any truth in this, I wonder?
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theraven1979
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Yeah I heard there was a bit of moonlighting going on.
However!! There was songs already written for the follow up to 10 - I asked him what they were in a forums Q&A - I think a few of them appeared on Footprints. He was a busy chap around then that's for sure!
Jim
| icecube wrote: | | theraven1979 wrote: | Nope - he left the Stranglers by then
Jim
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I heard that he'd started to write with Roger Cook before he left the Stranglers. Is there any truth in this, I wonder? |
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gizzard
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Hate to admit it but Nosferatu for me.
Mainly because it has two classic tracks in 'White Room' and 'Puppets' whch along with BHBEBS are my fave Hugh tunes.
Euroman is still a fan album though.
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adam_neil
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[quote="gizzard"]Hate to admit it but Nosferatu for me.
[quote]
Do you really hate to admit it Gizz or have ye gone soft in the 'ead like..
I mean ye not anti-Hugh, you go to his gigs for godsakes.
Adam (posting from a very cheap internet cafe in Islington, only a pound for half an hour - I thought they were taking the piss!!!!)
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ThruBeingCool
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| theraven1979 wrote: | Nope - he left the Stranglers by then
Might be best to start with some Janet & John books Barry
Jim
| ThruBeingCool wrote: | | So CCW is another solo effort is it? |
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Tell you what! I'll do a swap. Gimme your Janet & John books and I'll let you have my Robert Williams solo album (it's called 'Nosferatu')
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wadey1
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why are so many people anti hugh around here? i really dunno why. hes a great song writer, good bloke, terrific live performer, interesting, always coming up with brilliant songs and slants on oldies. the guy needs more respect i think. any way, nosferatu is a brilliant dark masterpiece. the music is so clever, it certainly influenced the raven and mib albums for sure.hate to say it, but most of euroman is crap tuneless drivel i believe. i mean what the fuck is crabs? and jelly fish? an assault on the ears... hugh is a genius. so under rated. his mere presence is electric.
here we go....
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gizzard
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| wadey1 wrote: | why are so many people anti hugh around here? i really dunno why. hes a great song writer, good bloke, terrific live performer, interesting, always coming up with brilliant songs and slants on oldies. the guy needs more respect i think. any way, nosferatu is a brilliant dark masterpiece. the music is so clever, it certainly influenced the raven and mib albums for sure.hate to say it, but most of euroman is crap tuneless drivel i believe. i mean what the fuck is crabs? and jelly fish? an assault on the ears... hugh is a genius. so under rated. his mere presence is electric.
here we go.... |
Nice one fella.
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paulinblack
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[quote="adam_neil"][quote="gizzard"]Hate to admit it but Nosferatu for me.
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Do you really hate to admit it Gizz or have ye gone soft in the 'ead like..
I mean ye not anti-Hugh, you go to his gigs for godsakes.
Adam (posting from a very cheap internet cafe in Islington, only a pound for half an hour - I thought they were taking the piss!!!!) |
Thats only because we forced him under duress!
Paul
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paulinblack
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| wadey1 wrote: | why are so many people anti hugh around here? i really dunno why. hes a great song writer, good bloke, terrific live performer, interesting, always coming up with brilliant songs and slants on oldies. the guy needs more respect i think. any way, nosferatu is a brilliant dark masterpiece. the music is so clever, it certainly influenced the raven and mib albums for sure.hate to say it, but most of euroman is crap tuneless drivel i believe. i mean what the fuck is crabs? and jelly fish? an assault on the ears... hugh is a genius. so under rated. his mere presence is electric.
here we go.... |
I quite like Crabs & Jellyfish plus Pretty Face and Freddie Laker. The rest is rubbish though. Same with Nosferatu. White Room, Wired, Mothra and Irate Catepillar are good, but the rest does nothing for me.
Paul
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The Nosferatu
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you fudging tell 'em wadey !
how can you not like the bassline to euromess, paulinlondon ? its class.
i find euroman a lot more accessible than nosferatu, i always go to put on nosferatu then think "nah" at the last minute, id rather listen to euroman cometh.
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PaulinLondon
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"Euroman" - well I can listen to it from beginning to end with highlights in between.
With this JJ offering, you sometimes need to think about what he might have been musing over in his mind at that time otherwise it probably doesn't work.
I really like it. Takes me back and there is an underlying Europaranoia thing going on which makes for good listening.
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PaulinLondon
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| The Nosferatu wrote: |
how can you not like the bassline to euromess, paulinlondon ? its class.
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Get yer eyes tested fella.
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ThruBeingCool
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| wadey1 wrote: | , nosferatu is a brilliant dark masterpiece. the music is so clever, it certainly influenced the raven
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How do you work that one out? Pretty sure 'The Raven' was released before 'Nosferatu'.
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The Nosferatu
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lol sorry paul.
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PaulinLondon
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| The Nosferatu wrote: | | lol sorry paul. |
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paulinblack
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| The Nosferatu wrote: | | lol sorry paul. |
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theraven1979
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How can anyone like crabs? I had em for fuckin weeks and it was bloody irratating,
Jim
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PaulinLondon
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Relatively interesting Blog with a piece on Euroman, like.
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wanderlust
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Well thanks folks my first 2000 views topic get it going!!
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